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Dror Melamed
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Hello Oz,

I am not aware if anyone has ever requested the following: I believe it will be of huge importnace and added value if you add the major identification attributes (and especially if there are field signs, distinctive signes between similar species, etc.) to newly posted species in your beautiful site. Needless to say, if you can add them to the already existing species it would be much appreciated.

Thanks,

Dror

July 14, 2009 at 1:55 AM Flag Quote & Reply

saturnids
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Posts: 468

Hi Dror,

I do want very much to do what you ask. I already started with Genitalia for some species but I know thats

not what you mean. This task would take a huge amount of time which sadly I don't have. I can tell you that I have more

than 30 species of beetles alone only waiting to be uploaded...

What I do plan to do is to put articles (taxonomic) about the local species but this will too take some time.

In the meantime I do gather all information posiible on identifying and I am planning on placing in the site but

this will require some solutions regarding how and where. I will start with a small pictures archive that will

help to identify for the family level and later on reduce it with drawings and text to the lower levels.

This kind of work can take between 30-60 minutes for each specie so it will take very long time.

My hope is to create a new/different platform for this but its really need to be thought about.

Any ideas are always welcome and if you have a specific question regarding ID's I can always

do my best to help (take in mind that I deal with only few groups so in some cases I will not give

much help although I can turn to people I know for help).

I think the first group will be the Cetoniinae (Scarabaeidae) on which I have now a good understanding

and some papers are about to be published and I will put them here as well. I will also slowly add some updated

checklists (the one on Scarabaeidae is almost ready and perhaps will be online in the next few days).

Only problem is time. Thanks for asking!

July 14, 2009 at 9:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

saturnids
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Posts: 468

Hi Dror,

Sooner than I thought, the complete list of Scarabaeidae of Israel is ready and online: LINK

 

July 15, 2009 at 12:06 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Dror Melamed
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saturnids at 12:06PM on Jul 15, 2009

Hi Dror,

Sooner than I thought, the complete list of Scarabaeidae of Israel is ready and online: LINK

 

Congratulations!

The descriptions for the Subfamiles Cetoniinae and  Valginae are exactly what I was hoping for (at least to begine with). It will be highly appreciated if you would be able to add such descriptions to as much as taxonomical groups as possible.

While it is fully understood that time is the most precious asset that is always in shortage, I sure hope that you will find the time to add these descriptions - since they are so valuable. Maybe the European partners you have may help you with this.

Yishar Coach!

Dror

July 19, 2009 at 3:49 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Jarek Bury
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Posts: 4

In my last trip on Middle East in 2004 I have met interesting species of Hymenoptera... The picture I sent to Oz Rittner - you will be to know what it is, I hope!

Best greetings

Jarek

August 4, 2009 at 2:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

saturnids
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I just saw it and I don't recognise it.  My knowledge in Hymenoptera is too small...

Regards,

Oz

August 5, 2009 at 12:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Amir
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Hi Jarek

U can send the photo to me and I'll try to ID  what ever I can
Amir

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My insects blog  http://insectour.blogspot.com/

August 5, 2009 at 7:09 AM Flag Quote & Reply

saturnids
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Hi Amir,

Here is the specimen Jarek asked about:

August 6, 2009 at 2:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Amir
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Posts: 17

Tks

 

The angle of the view not make ID easy.

Probably this is a Sphex sp (Sphecoisea)

 

The common Sphex who look similar is Sphex hirtus

Distribute at south of Israel and easy to see near wet habitats like springs or agriculture areas

Back and front angle view will help to confirm or disconfirm the ID

Amir

 



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My insects blog  http://insectour.blogspot.com/

August 6, 2009 at 4:14 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Amir
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Regarding the ID above I'm probably wrong

After compare to other new photos this wasp look more as Pompilidae

 

Maybe Hemipepsis brunnea (Klug, 1834)

a common spider wasp in Israel

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August 10, 2009 at 1:52 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Gala
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Hi;

I'm in need of some help identifying some specimens. Both are Hymenoptera

First one is  Pompilidae but what species? It doesn't look like the grey one (i think )...

http://www.new.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8248299&l=8dbf5aa70d&id=658540570

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8248300&l=4dfa6eba47&id=658540570

The second one have no clue

http://www.new.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8248296&l=002595a9bc&id=658540570

http://www.new.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8248297&l=e34deb5259&id=658540570

http://www.new.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=8248298&l=a754b8231d&id=658540570

Thank you


August 10, 2009 at 3:31 PM Flag Quote & Reply

saturnids
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Posts: 468

Hi Galka,

I will run these to some guys in Tel-Aviv Uni. and lets see whats coming up..

Regards

Oz

August 10, 2009 at 4:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

shlomi aharon
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hi gala.

the second insect you posted it belongs to the genus Ichneumonidae.  צרעתן בעברית.

shlomi.

(good luck if you doing in Thursday the exam in insect ecology)

August 11, 2009 at 5:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Gala
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Posts: 7

After a lot of digging i found this

http://www.entomoloji.org.tr/Arsiv/1996_20_4/1996_20_4_245-250.pdf

Myzinidae

או מיזנית בעברית

אבל זה לא מסתדר לי מבחינת צורת המחוש כל כך ....


חחח תודה שלומי

גם לך אם לא עשית עדיין

August 11, 2009 at 10:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Gala
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Well i'm wrong it's not Myzinidae  but as Shlomi said it Is  Ichneumonidae family but what species ?

August 11, 2009 at 11:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Jarek Bury
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Posts: 4

Thank You everybody who try to halp me!


I think it is Hemipepsis brunnea (Klug 1834), too! Thank you Amir... and beautyful blog, congratulations!!!

With best greetings

Jarek


PS. My website http://www.motyle.com.pl/

and few pictures from my last trip on Croatia - butterflies and beetles on Polish Lepiforum...

August 13, 2009 at 6:56 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Jarek Bury
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Oh - this is  the link - http://www.entomo.pl/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10269

August 13, 2009 at 6:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

gali
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http://www.pisga.org.il/reshet/mezadatv/article.asp?id=9d372ecf

 

what that ?

September 8, 2009 at 4:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

saturnids
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September 8, 2009 at 4:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

slavik35
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Подскажите, пожалуйста, как называется эта бабочка. Зарание спасибо

May 28, 2010 at 8:50 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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