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Assaf
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Hi All,

As inauguration to the new forum I post a riddle.

 

What am I?

 

December 12, 2008 at 1:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Oz Rittner
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Hi  Assaf,

By the form of the scutellum (rounded at the bottom) you can tell it belongs to the Genus Eulasia (while in the Genus Pygopleurus it is in the shape of an upside-down triangle).

The Glaphyridae family are in most cases impossible to ID by photo only but there are some that are easy.

In this case I would think it is Eulasia rappilyi. It is a common member of the Glaphyridae family in Israel and rather large in comparison to other species. I might be wrong and I asked Guido Sabatinelli for his advice as well. lets wait and see...

December 12, 2008 at 2:56 AM Flag Quote & Reply

g.sabatinelli@hotmail.com
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Assaf at 01:32AM on Dec 12, 2008

Hi All,

As inauguration to the new forum I post a riddle.

 

What am I?

 

It is surely a Eulasia subgenus Rudeulasia but the species is quite difficult to identify through a photo. Also because it is a female and is lacking of the distinctive character in the males of E.rapillyi Baraud : internally dilatated anterior tibiae.

It can be: E.rapillyi, papaveris/harmonia, saccai. Most probably rapillyi is if coming from North Israel while harmonia or saccai if is coming from lower altitudes of the Jordan Valley.

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December 12, 2008 at 3:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Oz Rittner
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Thank you very much Guido.

December 12, 2008 at 3:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Assaf
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Indeed a difficult genus. You'r right this is genus Eulasia but not rapillyi

You can try again

December 12, 2008 at 6:43 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Assaf
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To Guido, since I'm unable to edit my last message. I'll add here: It's not from the north nor the Jordan vally.

December 12, 2008 at 7:20 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Oz Rittner
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In this stage all we can do is guessing...

Did you made the ID? on what did you based it?

(I mean - do you have the actual specimen or only the photo?)

December 13, 2008 at 2:44 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Assaf
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Well if it was easy I woudn't call it a riddle

But since it's pointless to start guessing this is female Eulasia japhoensis ID with the help of Marco.

 

December 13, 2008 at 6:05 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Oz Rittner
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Ah..

You know, this is impossible to ID 100% just from a photo.

Eulasia japhoensis considered a rare specie but it seems to be one of the commonest along the coastal plain. a very nice specie although I would never guessed because the color looks different.

December 13, 2008 at 6:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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